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Basildon latest McKesson site to tender

3 April 2012   Rebecca Todd

Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust is going out to tender for a new patient administration system and an electronic patient record system that will be built up over five years.

Twenty-five suppliers have already shown an interest in the project and will be attending a briefing at the trust this Thursday.

The tender is split into three parts. The first is a new PAS, which will be deployed around October 2013 and has an indicative budget of £2m.

“The new PAS must also provide bed management, outpatient self-service, business intelligence and data warehousing functionality,” the prior information notice says.

The second part is ‘Clinical 5’ functionality, which includes order communications, letters with clinical coding, resource scheduling, and e-prescribing.

The final phase will see the implementation of other clinical modules such as A&E, theatres, radiology and maternity.

Basildon and Thurrock’s director of strategic development, Mark Magrath, said the trust’s current PAS, which is provided by McKesson, would not be supported beyond March 2014. As a result, the trust has “no choice” but to replace it.

“Rather than just replace the PAS in isolation, we have chosen to procure an EPR. The reason for that is that selecting a PAS on its own constrains the choice available for an EPR thereafter,” he told eHealth Insider.

Magrath said he expected a contract to be signed in March 2013 and 80% of clinical systems to be deployed within five years. The clinical modules will be added on a case by case basis, subject to individual business cases being accepted by the board.

Only the funding for the PAS has board approval. However, the general approach of adding clinical functionality over time has also been approved.

The trust is holding a briefing for interested suppliers on Thursday where it will be discussing budgets. It has 25 suppliers confirmed as attending.

“We see that as an opportunity to explain in more detail to the supplier community exactly what we are doing and what our expectations are to make sure we get good responses along the lines of expectation,” Magrath said.

“It may avoid some suppliers wasting their time because those without capacity or capability to deliver a full EPR, we wouldn’t want responding.”

Magrath said the trust was conducting the procurement via competitive dialogue because it could not yet specify the requirements of the EPR in detail and wanted to explore its options.

However, he added that the trust has already made a significant investment in an electronic medical record system for scanning case notes from Fortrus.

“We want the PAS and EPR to interact seamlessly with the case note information in the EMR and by doing that we’ll get significant patient safety enhancements,” he said.

The trust currently runs a medical records library in an offsite warehouse which costs £1m a year and will be closing as part of the scanning project.

The notice was issued on 15 March and says the trust plans to publish a contract notice in the Official Journal of the European Union at the end of this month.

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Neelam Dugar 129 weeks ago

http://www.auntminnieeurope.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=pac&pag=dis&ItemID=606315

Will give you a few on how VNA has evolved.

http://www.pacsgroup.org.uk/forum/messages/2/58575.html?1332885545

A debate around VNA including users, Vendors & standards experts.

PACS Replacements going on in all Trusts--DEFINITELY to save money.

VNA is included in every PACS replacement that is going on.

Now it is upto each Trust how they wish to proceed from here--all of them will have VNA infrastructure by 2015.

Are your other Clinical systems --XDS Source & consumer compliant?

Do you wish to ensure you have an exit strategy for your clinical systems.

With PACS through VNA we will be all having an exit strategy---In 2020 we will plug out our old PACS & plug in a new one--with very straightforward data migration.


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Daniel Defoe 129 weeks ago

Mr T (and anybody else who can be bothered) - your local Head of Radiology will tell you all about VNA and why it's important. Yes, it's like the Cloud, but it's your own water vapour rather than God's (or Google's perhaps).


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At least they have called it PAS & Clinical 5

Neelam Dugar 130 weeks ago

And not an "EPR" :)

Do NHS IT procurements have a written "end of contract exit strategy" which clearly outlines how data will be migrated. I think this is key.

We reccomend this with PACS that there is a pre-nup agreement about end of contract data handover. This should happen with any Clinical IT system procurement.


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Daniel Defoe 129 weeks ago

Neelam, until "true" VNA came along (and actually, it's still coming), exit strategies in IT contracts were not much more than pious hopes. Now, provided the data which any system generates can be stored in a VNA (and there's no reason why it shouldn't), and the client is prepared to pay for the necessary additional costs of this - not just in purchasing a VNA, but of its ongoing management etc., then exiting and migrating should be a piece of the proverbial. Of course, this means that there needs to a very radical change in Specifications of Requirements for all future IT requirements. And, possibly, one of the best ways of handling all this is for a Trust (or perhaps some wider community) to have a VNA into which all data is tipped - something like a data warehouse, only with intelligence. Hmmmm. I feel a large slice of consultancy coming on...


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mrtablet 129 weeks ago

..and it's an acronym Wikipedia (like I) had yet to encounter

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNA

Google it (e.g. VNA healthcare) and you'll find the Cloud has the answer. Personally I shall not be holding my breath.


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Daniel Defoe 130 weeks ago

No you're not reading it right George. But at least B&T have recognised that they need and want an EPR (albeit that they're still talking about the "clinical 5" which is much less aspirational than it ought to be) rather than a mish-mash of "portals" and "best-in-breed" which seems to be compromise of the month in other parts of the NHS at the moment.


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george385 130 weeks ago

....no I'm not.


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george385 130 weeks ago

So - am I reading this right - contracts will be signed for the new PAS in March 2013 - and just six months later will be live?


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